It’s Paul from St Mathews Wigan just sending pics of before and after we concentrated on getting the many leaves and twigs off over winter also loads of spike holes seeded and prayers were answered.
Thanks for your help John
John,
Every thing is going well. I have two new, but very keen assistants to help on the green. We have been following your organic system for 6 years now, with great results. This photo was taken at the end of March following a couple of passes with the scarifier & mowing. No major works required as you can see, the green is in excellent condition. Will be posting the latest soil sample on Monday. Healthy white root penetration to + 100mm. Thanks for every thing, Frank Mel & Chi, Needingworth Bowls Club
Hi John.
I hope all is well with you.
We have made a big step forward this year with our green and we have every reason to believe it will keep steadily improving so thank you for all your help.
Thanks’ John.
All the best. Simon
Hello John
We are very happy with our soil analysis report thanks. We seem to be moving things in the right direction.
Whilst myself and my partner in crime Steve have always had confidence in following your program, not all in our club have felt the same.
We are now just over 5 years into looking after things ourselves and the transformation is incredible and getting better each year. We are now being selected to hold district competitions and finals games. But the best of all is to hear the unsolicited positive comments about the green from visiting players.
Many thanks
Graham Bickerdike and Steve Portman
Savile Park BC Castleford
John
I use Fizzy Bio Tabs mainly through the winter period with Defender giving excellent results re disease resistance etc. I use them with water that has stood to get rid of the chorine.
I have been using your programme for 6 years now with fantastic results. Compost tea, CMS Shoot, monthly with liquid 18.0.10 at a low dose With Chelated Iron if needed two weeks later giving an excellent playing surface.
(I will be asking for a soil sampling kit shortly, just to confirm that we have no underlying issues prior to putting in our winter program order ).
Thanks for the articles, always interested on what is out there.
Frank Johnson. Holywell cum Needingworth Bowls Club.
Hi Dave and John, The green looks super. I was thinking of John today as I was at green most of day preparing for our opening next Saturday. I will send photos. John I will be sending order for our next Soil Analysis very soon. We can then plan for next 18 months. My aim is to buy more of John’s products following our soil analysis. Without John our green at Ainsdale would not have improved at the rate it has. It was nice to get so many positive comments from experienced bowlers.
Haydn
Hi John,
I just wanted to let you know what an interesting and rewarding day we’ve had here, at our green re-opening. Numerous compliments received about the excellent condition of our green, old stagers saying it looks the best it has done for 25 years or more. Obviously I’m chuffed but inside I’m thinking “but I’ve only been following John’s programme since September*, wait till I’ve had the spring and summer too!”
*you may remember that we were committed to an external contractor until then
Meanwhile of course, we’ve saved thousands of pounds.
Anyway, I just wanted to drop you a line – and copy Haydn in because he so kindly introduced me to you last year.
Cheers, hope you’re keeping well.
PS our SISIS tining machine is being delivered on Thursday, I’m looking forward to using that
Dave
Hi John,
Thought I would send you a picture of the green this afternoon 09 Nov 2023. What a difference a few months have made.
Thanks so much
Grant and all Freuchie BC members
Haydn-Massive thank you and tremendous transformation
A massive thank you for your Soil Analysis and replies to my ongoing emails. Really appreciated. In April the green was gritty, Localised dry patches spreading ( previous committee members /green manager thought was purely crane fly damage), in fact we had several complaints from opponents stating how disappointed they were with condition of the green. I sent photos to you.
Photos from April/May 2022:
Your Soil Analysis put us back on track identifying what we needed to do and act as a Green Management Programme.
The results have been amazing. We are now being complimented by opposition. We’ve watered daily ( twice a day for many weeks), aerated in variety of ways regularly, our feeds have been adjusted from the Soil Analysis and we’ve now had liquid aeration on green.
We still have some smaller patches. I’ve been aerating, slitting and seeding all summer. We are adjusting Ph with calcium spread and I’ve got wetting agent to apply to any areas where water bubbles on top to avoid new Localised Dry Patches appearing. Also aerating.
Lots more work to do but incredible transformation. Opponents now asking how we’ve done it! I start by recommending your Soil Analysis.
Due to previous low cutting 3mm, reluctance to water and limited aeration we have had to reverse an alarming decline.
Photos from March 2023:
Haydn
Ken…We started off with a green that did not play well
I thought I would drop you a note to say how much I and my club appreciate the advice and support you have given us over the years.
We started off with a green that did not play well, always had one disease or another and generally was in poor health.
I have read many of your publications including performance greens, and following your analysis of our soil we have always followed your advice and maintenance schedule you provided.
Our green this year is the best ever, we have had many compliments from visiting bowlers and green keepers. Many of our local clubs have used our green this year when they had to arrange a neutral venue, also some county finals and leagues.
Thanks again, and if you want to put this on your website please feel free as I completely endorse your advice and products. We also use your website hosting service which again has been great.
Thank you.
Ken Ward Alton Social Bowls Club
Tony…better grass over
Taking advantage of a fine evening to cut and vertigroom the green at Whitwell Bowls Club.
We are beginning to see the benefits of your advice from our winter treatment in enhancing the soil conditions. We have a better grass coverage of the green.
Thank you
Tony
Great progress in just 1 year
Last Compost Tea for this year now on before changing to Defender +Bio Tabs for6mths.
Mycogro, TRACEOLITE, and CaCo3 all on and first cut at 10mm bench setting been done.
Continuing with slitting and starting sarrel rolling for the winter mths. when conditions allow,and over seeded central section, though slow looks to have been successful.
Many comments from Club members on how well and green the green is looking
There have been no adverse comments AT ALL
I now have a continuance plan in place, and with your continuing help, I feel for the first time since inception in 1903,our Club has a greenkeeping plan which should NOT change markedly without a VERY GOOD reason at ANYTIME in the future. Consistency, consistency, consistency.
Many, many thanks John. We already have a bowling green to be pleased with, and are very hopeful of having one to be proud of in the not too distant future.
Can, t believe how quickly things have turned around from where we were, with our contractors costing £3000/yr recommending digging it up August 2019.
Regards, Angus
Keep well.
Wem Albion BC
Hi John
As you are aware I became the green keeper at the Albion
in October 2018. The green had received an official complaint, during that season saying that the green was unplayable, so therefore we went into 2019 knowing that the officials of Shrewsbury Senior league would pay us a visit in the March to decide the clubs fate.
I had only taken up bowls in 2018 so other than a love of gardening had no idea how to go about making a change, I watched some videos on YouTube and searched the internet and luckily found Bowls Central site. I forwarded to you the result of soil analyse test, which were very poor, you put together a detailed plan of month by month tasks advised us go down the organic route, designing a package that fitted in with our clubs limited resources.
In our 1st 8 months, every little task, all new to us came with their own stresses! I contacted you regularly with probably very mundane questions but you always responded within a couple of hours always very positive and we managed to not only fly through the official inspection but had such positive feed back from members and visiting teams.
Most comments from visiting teams started with….we thought we were coming to the worst green in Shropshire, but not anymore!
2020 we continue to follow your plan through lockdown, the club have organised a mini league to help keep members interested during Covid 19
The Whitchurch League in association with Dennis have run ‘The Whitchurch Bowling League best green competition’ and of the 13 clubs that entered I am so pleased to inform you that the Albion was awarded 2nd overall which has astounded us.
Both my husband and myself can’t thank you enough for all your support and advice.
Regards Angela.
PS A couple of pictures attached for you, before and now!
Provincial Championships
Thank you for the analysis of our soil samples. We acted on it immediately and will continue next spring when the club reopens. No sand was spread this fall for the first time in many years. Regular tining will be part of our green’s preparation next year. Just found out our club has been selected to host the provincial singles novice championships in September 2019. I don’t think this would have happened without your “long distance” advice.
Thank you. Ted, Richmond Hill, Ontario, Canada
Saving Money and Time Whilst Improving our Green
We have used compost tea, seaweed & molasses over the past two seasons. For the first time in 28 years we had no disease .This is due to dispensing with chemicals& following the guidance of Bowls Central.
This year we have changed how we carry out Autumn renovation. Following verti-cutting we hollow cored to 30m/m & left the risings on the surface for one week.
They dried out so we used our two Dennis mowers without the grass boxes to chop up the risings.This was successful & we then removed the grass & thatch leaving a light covering of soil. This was switched & we were then ready for patch seeding. We used about half a bag of Johnsons Sport seed to deal with bare patches & parts of the edges. We then lightly watered the seeded areas. A few bird scarers were placed on the green using old C.D discs on a string line supported by sticks.
The total cost of this years renovation work is one bag of seed. Over the past year we have saved £ 2,000 by using non chemical applications & not applying top dressing over the green.
Our next move will be to have a soil analysis through Bowls Central.
We can thoroughly recommend the system described above. It is both labour & cost saving.
Reg Rapley, Windlesham
Soil Analysis
Hi John, just a few lines to tell you how happy I am with your site and all the information it contains. I have just bought and received the breakdown of your soil analysis…wow lots to go through but what a very thorough and detailed report.
Also bought the compost tea kit just finished the first batch it is very easy to brew and use already seeing the vigourous growth coming through.
Thanks for everything
Garry Senior, Moldgreen Con Club
LDP…Fixed!
Well the 2018 bowling season is rolling to an end and thanks to your advice and programme for 2017 to 2018 the green has improved and shown a remarkable recovery. During the very hot conditions in June and July the green stood up remarkably well with no sign of ldp. It has been very satisfying to receive complimentary comments from members of local and visiting clubs. I have attached picture one 2017 picture two 2018 . Stewart, Wales..August 2018
Unfit for Purpose
Our club is part of a large sports complex comprising cricket, tennis, football and bowls facilities which are looked after by professional groundsmen. Due to budgetary cuts over several years and a reduction in staff numbers our green became the poor relation of the complex. It was full of ryegrass and in February 2016 was described as “Unfit for purpose and beyond redemption”
Sowe at the Bowls Club contacted a green specialist company who came to inspect it and quoted us £10,000 to rip it up and start again, We could not afford that so as a result I searched the internet and discovered John Quinn’s Website and subsequently formed a small team of club members to maintain the green ourselves.
We had a soil analysis done via John and discovered our green is also 93% sand – due to many years of top dressing, which is now discontinued.
Since March 2017 we have been maintaining the green entirely in accordance with John’s instructions based on a week by week year-long program which he produced. The ground staff now only cut the grass and we do the rest. We knew absolutely nothing about green maintenance when we started and so we have stuck rigidly to his program of maintenance. This comprises the application of organic products including Compost Tea, Biobooster N, CMS Shoot, Liquid Seaweed, Liquid Iron & Liquid Copper for moss control and Aquacept & Hydroaid for Localised Dry Patch treatment. Calcium Sulphate, Mycogrow Complete and “Caviar” are applied in the spring.
I stress that green restoration is a marathon rather than a sprint so don’t expect instantaneous results. However the the most obvious initial outcome was that the compost tea applications encouraged the fine grasses and saw off the ryegrass. Regular tining with a Groundsman Aerator and Sarrel Rolling have accompanied the compost tea and other nutrients applications.
My advice would be to read and generally digest John’s ebooks and close your ears to all those sceptical “experts” within you own club and indeed from many other clubs. I stress it is not all plain sailing because, as I am sure you are well aware, a bowls green is a living beast with mind of its own and problems will occur. For example we had heavy outbreaks of moss following the wet spring and areas of localised dry patch with the long hot summer, both of which have been substantially reduced with John’s guidance. I cannot praise him highly enough as when problems do occur just drop him an email and add a photo, if appropriate, and within hours (sometimes within minutes) he will be back with a suggested course of action.
With the wet spring and the long hot summer we have seen some truly awful greens this year. By comparison we have a huge sense of pride at our club as visiting teams compliment us on the quality of our green – especially those who remember what a disaster it was only couple of years ago. I would add that the Head Groundsman although initially sceptical at John’s methods is now full of praise for the current state of the green.
I have added some photographs of an area of moss (which is also an LDP) taken in May after prolonged wet weather and the same area taken just 4 days ago. I have also included one of the green as a whole. The photos speak for themselves and I remind you that it was described as ” Unfit for purpose and beyond redemption” just 20 months ago and only organic materials have been applied to the green in the intervening period .
So my advice is – stick rigidly with John and his program and have patience. Don’t let setbacks put you off and In my experience you will be amply rewarded.
Alan Paxton, Imber Court Bowls Club (August 2018)
John
I would just like to thank you for all the advice you send our way, I am a novice green keeper who just wanted to try to get out green playable, after struggling two seasons ago I started following your advice and after taking plenty of Knocks last season my just rewards came thus season with a green that many cant believe I have achieved it may not be a perfect green but it will get there with more hard work, and I believe aeration has been the biggest key. Keep up you good work in helping us all in maintaining our greens Paul
Hi John
I followed your advices at the end of my first season as green keeper ( 2 yrs ago) and the first year was fair to bad , green improved but was still heavy and not as flat as I would have liked but it played, then we came to the 2nd season and I followed your advices to the letter, the green was superb , we had the Kent ladies play their final on it and the comments were
music to my ears.
All club members have been commenting on the fact that the green has not played like it
before , we have now stopped for the winter so hard work starts again, I have scarified 3 ways , over seeded, and used 3 bags of topsoil to cover any seeds that did not find aeration holes , the weather down south has been good so Saturday I gave the green a short water session for the benefit of the seeds .
I have raise the cut height to 8mm and intend to give a light scarify after xmas , I take soil samples monthly and adjust as necessary with whatever is needed.
The green is old and has survived for many years , your help and advice will I hope make it
last for many more.
Kind regards and thanks.
Tony
Hi John
After devouring all the information and following your advice I have members coming to me and saying the green has never looked better or played better! Some of these are the ancient stalwarts who have been members for years, visitors are also full of praise. Woods are rolling smoothly and the pace is good, not lightening fast, but a decent speed, occasionally it does go a bit rapid when very dry, but thats not often in this part of the world!
We have a good density of grass coverage.
All in all I feel that my first year looking after the green has been a success, so wish to thank you for your help and advice, I’m continually dipping into the website picking up bits and pieces!
Attached pic of part of the green, this time last year the area to the right bottom corner was thinly covered with grass and lots of patches, this year as you can see it’s OK.
Thanks once again for your help with my success.
Cheers
Barry
Hi John, We have found the Website easy to use and easy to update and are very pleased with it.
This new website has enabled us to advise members of the progress of the club relocation, the building of the new green and to keep the local community and other bowls clubs whom we deal with up to date with what is going on at Burghfield Bowls Club, and of where we are!
We believe our website is now one of the most informative, and modern websites out there. It is a focal point for our fixtures, leagues, club competitions and gallery of our move and successes both on and off the green. Also, with our club name in the URL, we are easily found through most web search engines. We are certain bowls-central have played an essential role in making Burghfield the club we are today.
John: This is the first time I have encountered your marketing and I have to say I think it more than just essential – it should be compulsory. I am a journalist / veteran bowls writer who believes in communication yet my club has a President who thinks computers and email are “new fangled rubbish” and trying to get stories in the media is a waste of time. Even today – the first day of the Pennant season and virtually no-one knows who is playing in what team because we are travelling with only weekend bowls so there is no reason to go to the club during the week except to drink or play the pokies (not very many do). In writing my recently-published book Life & Soul of Bowls Downunder, I visited more than 50 bowls clubs around Australia and I was amazed at some of the ingenious ways clubs have found to keep in touch with, and encourage, their members. After haranguing our committee (Benowa Bowls Club) they wrote and told me I was appointed as “media consultant” despite the fact, the constitution has provision for a “Publicity Officer” – as you will know, a totally different role. I hope your advice covers the issue of communication, the sport needs that badly. Kindest regards Ross Thompson
re your Manifesto for a Successful Bowling Club advice. Somebody on the committee must be reading it. We successfully ran a Ladies Classic over three week-ends with a Junior classic for under 18’s along side our established Men’s event . A football team now meets every week here, we have teams in the local darts and crib league, a local Park bowls club wants to use our green next season and we have a slimming club meet here every week. There is going to be a charity invitation with the top 32 ladies and top 32 men pairing up for a local cause. All in the last few months.
We really do want the green to be a credit to the club. RM
When our club members had to take over the maintenence of our green in March 2008 we continued to top dress. At this time and in spite of previously having engaged a greenkeeper for some considerable time, the green had deteriorated to such an extent that several top bowlers were declining their invitation to take part in our annual classic event. With LDP,sqidge and slime, moss and anaerobic soil ( the green Stank ) we were desperate for help.Two seasons ago because of financial problems and in line with the advice obtained from John’s book Performance Bowling Greens, we stopped top dressing. We were heavily criticised by many members whose collective wisdom was that the green would suffer if we did not carry out this task.
One look at the green told the four of us that it would be hard for it to get much worse as by this time large areas of the green were grassless. For the last two seasons we have not top dressed and used some of the money saved to carry out other parts of the maintenence work which obviously with hindsight had not been done properly and were rewarded at this years “Classic” with very positive comments about how well the green looked and played compared to 2010 by the professional players. There is still a way to go yet but hopefully, we are getting there. John’s book was the catalyst for starting the improvement, but we found that “let’s ask John” became almost a catchphrase among us whenever a problem arose. Without fail, first thing the next morning we had received advice and encouragement on how to resolve the matter. RM
Our club is struggling to make ends meet at the moment. We have some garages next to the club which we let out and which are a small source of income. At a club meeting an offer made for them was roundly rejected. Last month two local councillors were seen on the green one morning. When the committe were asked about this, they were a bit evasive but one of the veterans who helps to look after the green knew one of them. When he got the chance he asked what was happening and was told that the council had been asked about planning permission to erect houses where the garages were. In the course of this visit they were also asked about the possible use of the bowling green for building purposes. They informed the club!!!! that they would not even consider the use of the green for anything other than its present use as we are in a fairly densely populated area of housing with very few green spaces. It was nice to find that not all local councillors are trying to “concrete over” our green spaces. When the committee member was then challenged about this matter, the response was that we had to cover all angles with regard to income. It smacks of selling the “family silver” as up until a short time ago, virtually no serious steps had been taken to cover other areas of increasing income as set out in John’s books on How to Grow Club Membership and Introduction to Management for Bowling Clubs. RM
I’ve just found this article “Eleven greenkeeping mistakes you don’t know you are making” and just shuddered. Looking at the list with the benefit of hindsight there was only overwatering that we weren’t doing and that was because we rely on rainfall.
Five years ago at our AGM in March the Bowls Section were told that the club were struggling financially and that the greenkeeper had been let go the previous September. If we wanted to carry on bowling, we would have to maintain the green ourselves. Four of us “veteran” bowlers agreed to do this in spite of none of us having any experience whatever. After all, we had a mower didn’t we? And this is when the “fun” started. Every man and his dog had an opinion on what steps we needed to take. “Someone” knew a man who had done “something” with bowling greens and before we knew it, he was meeting us at the green and within an hour we found that we had localised dry patch, thatch, moss, needed to reseed small areas of the green and it needed fertilising. However, we weren’t to worry as he actually worked for a firm that sold all our requirements. He looked at the pitiful array of tools we had and enthused about the mower which he declared to be the “dogsbollocks.” So, we decided to mow the grass. Where to plug it in?? It was petrol!! Eventually we got it started and worked out how to get the blades going as well. And so four men went to mow (went to mow a meadow). Nice straight lines were to be the order of the day, and so we were off, literally as the mower had been left in Rabbit mode instead of Tortoise. We shot off across the green like an olympic relay team desperately trying to hold on to the mower and leaving a beautiful wavy line in our wake. Considering that our combined ages were 264 years we reckoned we had covered the 35 yards in a very creditable time. After we had cut the green three times, we knew that something was badly wrong with the mower. We were told that the blade was set at an angle, was blunt and was cutting at 3mm which explained the scalping and uneven cut. Halfway through the season the green had deteriorated badly and it was at this time that we discovered John’s guide on the internet and bought it. I ran copies for all of us and then E-mailed John to say we owed him more money for these copies. His reply was that the club is his customer and no additional monies were required and if we needed any further help after reading the book to get back to him. Which we do on a regular basis.we were getting complaints about its condition and running RM
Hi John
We have just purchased two of your ebooks and we are very impressed with the advice you give in them and the methods you use. We are a Crown Green Club with a green that has many hollows in it. They makes a very interesting green and one which many bowlers love to play on. Our problem is that due to various reasons they continue to appear and grow in size each year. Over the past few seasons we have top dressed the green (1200sqm)with between 2 & 3 tonnes of 70/30 top dressing and then drizzled it into the hollows (leaving the grass tips showing) as and when possible during the close season. Do you think we should continue with 70/30 or change to 60/40 due to large amounts of top dressing going into the hollows? Norman Kempson
Looking forward to more knowledge from your experts, thank you very much. Keith Gild
Myself and my Club Kearsney Bowling Club have a lot of faith in John Quinn and are building our green improvement scheme around his book ‘Performance Bowling Greens a Practical Guide’ which was purchased by the club for our grren keeper and playing member Graham Perrinn. Bowling Club Survival and Tournaround eBook is just the guide for clubs to get a grip of and encouraging new members to come to the club. It will also once, the project is up and running, show to club members, in laymans language, how the club is running, what we can do to improve our image and how and where the money is distributed to make it a Club others will want to join. Thank you John for all the information you distribute amongst us willing Club Officers and Green keepers to make the game of Bowls continue into the future.
Regards Colin Thompson, Treasurer of Kearsney Bowling Club. Colin Thompson
Hi John,
Just a line or two to thank you for some wonderful advice on bowling greens.I have recently been appointed greenkeeper at Sutton Coldfield Conservative Club.I have 38 years experience of golf greenkeeping but your advice has been invaluable.When i took over,the green was in a pretty pathetic state.But,with lots of work and manhours,it is turning around pretty well.It is good to know that there are people around that can offer their advice for free and are willing to help in this wonderful profession.I have a question for you:-What can i do about squirrels/cats/rabbits digging up my green?i repair their scrapes twice a week,add animal repellent to each repair,but they just return and dig somewhere else.Obviously,we can’t afford to spray the whole green(1800 Sq metres) so do you have any ideas? Thanks once again for all you do for us novice bowling green guys. Best regards, Jim.
John
I have followed your advice for the past four+ years and in this time have not put an ounce of top dressing on the green. The green was in a poor state when you first visited, with compaction, dry patch, and all the other problems associated with excessive top dressings (advised in the main by golf course greenkeepers who had been employed as our consultants) which had been applied annually for almost 15 years. What a difference there has been on the green: Gone is the dry patch; compaction is normal (after a busy year); disease is non existant; the speed of the green is much improved with a firmer surface to play on. I will certainly continue to follow your guidance in the future. George Low
thank you, you have just answered what i thought has happened to the bowling green i play on. cannot get anyone in a position to do anything. ican now show them this article ,again thanks Derek Carter
john
thanks for sending me your your tips on greenkeeping as i live in tasmania our climate would have a lot of similarity to yours and i am finding your advice very helpful